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THE LETTER FROM THE DANBURY BAPTIST ASSOCIATON AND THOMAS JEFFERSON'S RESPONSE

    America's Founding

In 1801 the Danbury Baptist Association wrote a letter to the newly elected President Jefferson to complain of their states lack of a new constitution. Connecticut was still operating under it's original charter of 1639. That charter founded a democratically represented (congregational) church and then a civil government. The king of England signed off on the charter making Connecticut an independent republic not subject to England's rule so this had already been an independent country for a century. This was a very stable government that no one in Connecticut wanted to change until some unscrupulous men started to use membership in the congregational church to disenfranchise some of those who belonged to other churches. That is what the Danbury Baptist wrote the newly elected president about. In his letter the president answered that an "act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, thus building a wall of separation between Church & State." The modern question being: Are these letters meant to convey exactly what they say or is that sentence taken out of the context of these letters  meant to convey what a rouge Supreme Court declared in 1947? That Religious principle or expression has no place whatsoever in any public entity according to the courts dictates?

 

The address of the Danbury Baptists Association in the state of Connecticut, assembled October 7, 1801.

To Thomas Jefferson, Esq., President of the United States of America.

Sir,
Among the many million in America and Europe who rejoice in your election to office; we embrace the first opportunity which we have enjoyed in our collective capacity, since your inauguration, to express our great satisfaction, in your appointment to the chief magistracy in the United States: And though our mode of expression may be less courtly and pompous than what many others clothe their addresses with, we beg you, sir, to believe that none are more sincere. Our sentiments are uniformly on the side of religious liberty--that religion is at all times and places a matter between God and individuals--that no man ought to suffer in name, person, or effects on account of his religious opinions--that the legitimate power of civil government extends no further than to punish the man who works ill to his neighbors; But, sir, our constitution of government is not specific. Our ancient charter together with the law made coincident therewith, were adopted as the basis of our government, at the time of our revolution; and such had been our laws and usages, and such still are; that religion is considered as the first object of legislation; and therefore what religious privileges we enjoy (as a minor part of the state) we enjoy as favors granted, and not as inalienable rights; and these favors we receive at the expense of such degrading acknowledgements as are inconsistent with the rights of freemen. It is not to be wondered at therefore; if those who seek after power and gain under the pretense of government and religion should reproach their fellow men--should reproach their order magistrate, as a enemy of religion, law, and good order, because he will not, dare not, assume the prerogatives of Jehovah and make laws to govern the kingdom of Christ. Sir, we are sensible that the president of the United States is not the national legislator, and also sensible that the national government cannot destroy the laws of each state; but our hopes are strong that the sentiments of our beloved president, which have had such genial effect already, like the radiant beams of the sun, will shine and prevail through all these states and all the world, till hierarchy and tyranny be destroyed from the earth. Sir, when we reflect on your past services, and see a glow of philanthropy and good will shining forth in a course of more than thirty years we have reason to believe that America's God has raised you up to fill the chair of state out of that goodwill which he bears to the millions which you preside over. May God strengthen you for your arduous task which providence and the voice of the people have called you to sustain and support you enjoy administration against all the predetermined opposition of those who wish to raise to wealth and importance on the poverty and subjection of the people. And may the Lord preserve you safe from every evil and bring you at last to his heavenly kingdom through Jesus Christ our Glorious Mediator. Signed in behalf of the association, Nehemiah Dodge Ephraim Robbins Stephen S. Nelson

 

     In this letter the Baptist Association clearly acknowledges that the federal government is not the national legislator and as such cannot abolish the law of the states. Nor are they asking for that. What they are asking for is that Thomas Jefferson throw his moral authority behind their efforts to seek justice. In their case it would mean a constitution similar to what the other states had written for themselves. Below was Jefferson's answer.

 

 Mr. President:

To messers Nehemiah Dodge, Ephraim Robbins, & Stephen S. Nelson, a committee of the Danbury Baptist association in the state of Connecticut. Gentlemen

     The affectionate sentiments of esteem and approbation which you are so good as to express towards me, on behalf of the Danbury Baptist association, give me the highest satisfaction. my duties dictate a faithful and zealous pursuit of the interests of my constituents, & in proportion as they are persuaded of my fidelity to those duties, the discharge of them becomes more and more pleasing. Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State. Adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of conscience, I shall see with sincere satisfaction the progress of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced he has no natural right in opposition to his social duties. I reciprocate your kind prayers for the protection & blessing of the common father and creator of man, and tender you for yourselves & your religious association assurances of my high respect & esteem.

(signed) Thomas Jefferson Jan.1.1802.

 

      Like it or not Jefferson's answer placed that wall of separation in between the federal government and the state governments.  State and local government was the place the whole of the American people had chosen and secured the right to express their religious sentiments but there was a big wall around Washington DC to keep the federal government away from them. Further than this though the sentiment  of  the whole of the American people who were in fact quite religious was to give the federal government no say so in the matter at all.  However what Jefferson was hoping for was that the sentiment of the whole of the American people for how the federal government would conduct it's business would some day extend into all the state governments also. Well it never did. The people through local government and their states stayed religious as was fitting, and as a God given right they expressed those religious principles to varying degree's in the varying states until a radical minority of progressives got their comrades in the courts to declare it illegal in the last half of the twentieth century. Hopefully these judicial decrees will soon go the way of other infamous court rulings like the Dred Scott and Jim Crow rulings.

     The abuses that were going on in Connecticut weren't really an expression of religious differences playing out in it's government. (They rarely ever are.) As usual it centered around the love of money and covetous men using the congregational churches to give themselves an unfair advantage. This was corrected by the state and the people. Their new constitution made in 1818 was still expressly religious to the point of governing voluntary church membership. However this all came at a price because blacks who had just come of age to vote because Connecticut had put in statutory law the gradual end of slavery were now disenfranchised under the new constitution. Under the charter, technically anyway, they would have been able to vote if they met the other requirements everybody else had to meet. Those other "requirements"  to vote were the issue in the writing of a new constitution and not religious differences between churches.

    During the founding era of the United States the entire population, believers and non believers were of one opinion regarding Biblical based religion, morality and principles. That a population without them could not maintain freedom and government by the people and for the people. This would certainly include Thomas Jefferson who was not a believer. However there was absolute disagreement as to just what role civil government could play in fostering that Biblically based religion, morality and principle, (general Christianity in short.) The state constitutions reflected not only the absolute consensus of the necessity of religious principles and morality, a Bible literate culture as the only real defense against tyranny and the only basis for good government. These constitutions also reflected the disagreement among them as to the role civil government could play in fostering the necessary religious virtues. In that sense they could all be looked at as experimental constitutions along the lines of the peoples religious sentiments expressed in them. These constitutions were all modified as time went on. Some because of impracticality, others because sentiment changed and others to reflect the growing power of the forces of evil that were fighting the tide of history by seeking to keep and expand slavery. However the idea of the necessity of religious based principle, morality and a Bible literate culture never left the nation. The lovers of tyranny and the enemies of this nation have also recognized that they could never subvert or conquer it without first destroying the virtue of the people. It was not by accident that the radical minority who had always opposed the very idea of the United States because they have interests that it threatens conspired to destroy its virtue. Bible based religion, mortally and principle have been in the crosshairs of that conspiracy now for one hundred years.
     The Democrat party, at first the party of slavery and secession and segregation after the civil war slowly morphed into the party of socialism. At first under President Woodrow Wilson and large Democrat majorities in congress it embraced Darwin's race based scientism and race based eugenics enthusiasts.  They sought to create a fascist America ordered under a military type discipline. Wilson was the first academic to become President of the country and the first to publicly express his disdain for the "outdated" constitution. He created a three million man national civilian "security" force. (Do those words sound familiar? The nations second academic to be elected president has uttered a desire for this.) These were above the law, no doubt filled with KKK members, and loosed on the American people to suppress resistance to the fascist agenda. The head of  that "national security force" called the American Protective League was none other than Franklin D. Roosevelt. Hitler actually modeled his Third Reich after Wilsons foray into the darkness. The Democrat party won those elections not because of that agenda but because the Republican party split it's vote when the former Republican president Teddy Roosevelt ran as an independent. These were dark days in America. For the next 25 years the national and international socialists battled it out on the streets of America and for the heart of the Democrat party with the internationalist wing winning out because of WWII. When FDR won the presidency because of the depression he put into practice the lessons he learned in the Wilson Administration. It was at this point shortly after his death with this radical minority that so captivated the elites that the enemies of America from within and without struck a blow designed to rid the nation of it's strength and character and pave the way for it's enemies to conquer it. The Supreme court decreed without any precedence, actually against all precedence,  law and any reason or right that there would be no expression of religious principle, religion, religious based morality in any public entity in the United States. From that time on the courts used that decree in an attempt to rid the nation of it's religious heritage and the politicians under the influence of the radical progressives in the Democrat party have slavishly gone along with it.
 Here's the decree.

     To be able to grasp what this article is saying you will need to avail yourselves of the content of the original state constitutions concerning Christianity. Wordservice.org has a page that has separated all of this content out of all of these constitutions so that it is easy to read. Also the entire constitutions are available through hyperlinks. If you have not read these prepare yourself for a shock. You cannot imagine the magnitude of what this article just said until you read these. The thinking of the last couple of generations on the subject is so bastardized that one cannot in any way shape or form understand the subject without reading these constitutions themselves and have some kind understanding of what they meant and did not mean by the "establishment of religion." Here are those constitutions.

© Daniel Martinovich 2012-2013